And I just absorbed them when I was in my early 30s. This should make me upset but it doesnt. Martha Beck: In these eight deeply personal stories you'll hear promises made, broken, kept, and stretched. Martha Beck & Rowan Mangan: Polyamory & Throuple Life We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle Relationships 1. Like she already knew, obviously, but how did she handle it? And it was awesome. Rowan Mangan: Tell me, Marty, what are you trying to figure out this week? So if youre in with a spider and you start to say, Oh, what about me? I remember talking to one woman who was, she was a client. Martha Beck: Martha Beck: martha beck two wives Thanks for popping by. So what you do with a kettlebell, its like youre trying to lift an incredibly heavy bucket of despair. Yeah. But Ive been doing self-help thing, my whole career. I think in what were talking about in our marriage and with your life and the way that youre loving, its just I really think that that might be the only way. For more of us, Marthas on Instagram, themarthabeck. It can feel like exhaustion. This time the question comes from Ohio listener Bev, who hopes to learn more about codependencywhat it means and how it applies to her life as a mother and caregiver. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science, and Oprah Winfrey has called her one of the smartest women I know. Her newest book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller. Yes. No, but I just, I mean, if Martha Beck, you just reframed my hours and hours of TV time as camping. IG: @themarthabeck Martha Beck: But you didnt want to make that honesty hurt my feelings or something. So youre just talking about where its invisible privilege that can be worked with, but thats different from where theres actual narcissism. What if you had a whole blue cheese spectacle that you were about to present to me and I just condemned it with one word? Rowan Mangan: The gates are open, whatever happens and thats the fun of it is you never know what adventure life is going to bring you when you say, I will live on this thread of truth that I feel is myself. Its like youre pulling this thread towards you. Since many of Martha's listeners have similar personalities, she shares a coping technique she formulated after reading Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss.